[*BCM*] Electro Bike....Re: Battered Biker Syndrome

[Dave Atkins]

Those electric bikes are not "mopeds;" they are limited to 20mph...even coasting downhill, they brake to comply with Federal regs identifying them as electric bikes not mopeds or scooters

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Dave 

On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Mars <martian at MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Massachusetts cares not if your ride has pedals or not. If you meet these terms, you are a 'moped': http://www.mass.gov/rmv/license/7moped.htm
> 
> If you have a newer scooter which is capable of more then 30 mph (which the newer ones pretty much all are, even the 50cc ones) then you are now classified as a 'limited use vehicle': http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/luv.htm
> 
> If you don't fit into either of the above categories, have a motor and have less than four wheels, you're riding a motorcycle.
> 
> Parking regulations for mopeds and limited use vehicles are set by individual cities and towns, so it is not explicitly illegal to park a 'moped' at a bike rack unless you specifically know that the town you're in says so.
> 
> On 8/10/2010 2:36 PM, Silivrenion wrote:
>> 
>> I have some cheap prescription meds I found under my bed, if you'd like them? I hear they do wonderful things.
>> 
>> The bottom line is that true mopeds (motorized bicycles with pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same kind of issues as motor scooters.
>> 
>> --------------------
>> Angela Morley
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>> Computer Specialist, Salem State University Information Technology Services
>> General Manager, WMWM Salem
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Ben Salomon <bensalomon84 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I want to be on the mailing list for boston critical mass, but i'm
>> this is boreder line spam
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:54 PM,  <thom3 at aol.com> wrote:
>> > That's an ongoing situ that will be well, ongoing, I keep trying to think of
>> > better ways to approach motorists on this...
>> >
>> > BUT, BUT,did anyone read this
>> >
>> > http://www.boston.com/business/technology/innoeco/2010/08/buzzing_around_boston_on_pietz.html
>> >
>> > My immediate thoughts were, is it legal to bike on the sidewalk, let along
>> > ride a motorized vehicle on it? And a motorized vehicle on the esplanade?
>> > This all seems wrong.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jym Dyer <jym at econet.org>
>> > To: Boston CM <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
>> > Sent: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:21 pm
>> > Subject: [*BCM*] Battered Biker Syndrome
>> >
>> > =v= In response to this _Globe_ article:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2010/07/by_jonathan_simmons_guest_colu_2.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sean Roche wrote an astute "Battered Biker Syndrome" blog entry,
>> >
>> > appended below.
>> >
>> >     <_Jym_>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > =------------8<-------------Cut-Here-------------8<------------=
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2010/08/battered-biker-syndrome.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Battered Biker Syndrome
>> >
>> >     by Sean Roche
>> >
>> > Newton Streets and Sidewalks | Tuesday, 03-Aug-2010 at 6:08 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A driver chatting on a cellphone almost hit Jonathan Simmons,
>> >
>> > the _Globe_'s On Biking columnist. When confronted, she told him
>> >
>> > he had no business on the road. His response? He wrote a column
>> >
>> > wondering how biker behavior has contributed to the "road rage"
>> >
>> > and proposing a 10-point share-the-road pledge, six of which
>> >
>> > points apply exclusively to bikes and one of which applies only
>> >
>> > to pedestrians.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Let's break this down. Biker nearly gets killed. Biker promises
>> >
>> > to make drivers less angry.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > These are classic symptoms of someone in an abusive
>> >
>> > relationship. You harm me or threaten to harm me. It must
>> >
>> > be psomething I'm doing. I'll be a better person. Promise.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Suggesting that there is some causal relationship between
>> >
>> > cyclists' behavior and the woman's potentially fatal actions
>> >
>> > is just wrong. Let's be clear. There is absolutely no behavior
>> >
>> > on the part of a cyclist that excuses or explains a motorist
>> >
>> > putting a cyclist in jeopardy. There is nothing that cyclists do
>> >
>> > that excuses or explains a motorist being ignorant of cyclists'
>> >
>> > right to the road.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nothing.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Certainly, there are cyclists out there doing things that are
>> >
>> > wrong and things that are technically illegal. Let's identify
>> >
>> > and address those behaviors. But let's not even suggest that
>> >
>> > those behaviors somehow justify the anti-bicycle sentiment
>> >
>> > that's demonstrably out there on the road. Especially -- and
>> >
>> > this also reflective of abusive relationships -- because of the
>> >
>> > inherent power differential in the motorist/biker relationship:
>> >
>> > motorists' attitudes and behaviors can get a cyclist killed or
>> >
>> > seriously injured.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Perhaps most importantly, it's foolish to think that drivers are
>> >
>> > going to respect cyclists and give them plenty of safe cushion
>> >
>> > if we could just convince those pesky two-wheeled scofflaws to
>> >
>> > stop at red lights. Dangerous driving, road rage, and rampant
>> >
>> > violations of the rules of the road pre-date the recent surge in
>> >
>> > bicycling. Cyclists have just become another target for the bad
>> >
>> > actors in our car-dominated culture.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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