<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Those electric bikes are not "mopeds;" they are limited to 20mph...even coasting downhill, they brake to comply with Federal regs identifying them as electric bikes not mopeds or scooters<br><br><div>-----</div><div>Dave </div></div><div><br>On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Mars <<a href="mailto:martian@MIT.EDU">martian@MIT.EDU</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Massachusetts cares not if your ride has pedals or not. If you meet
these terms, you are a 'moped': <a href="http://www.mass.gov/rmv/license/7moped.htm"><a href="http://www.mass.gov/rmv/license/7moped.htm">http://www.mass.gov/rmv/license/7moped.htm</a></a><br>
<br>
If you have a newer scooter which is capable of more then 30 mph
(which the newer ones pretty much all are, even the 50cc ones) then
you are now classified as a 'limited use vehicle': <a href="http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/luv.htm"><a href="http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/luv.htm">http://www.mass.gov/rmv/regs/luv.htm</a></a><br>
<br>
If you don't fit into either of the above categories, have a motor
and have less than four wheels, you're riding a motorcycle.<br>
<br>
Parking regulations for mopeds and limited use vehicles are set by
individual cities and towns, so it is not explicitly illegal to park
a 'moped' at a bike rack unless you specifically know that the town
you're in says so.<br>
<br>
On 8/10/2010 2:36 PM, Silivrenion wrote:
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<div>The bottom line is that true mopeds (motorized bicycles with
pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same kind
of issues as motor scooters.</div>
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<div>Angela Morley</div>
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<div>Founder & CEO, ionFyre Technologies</div>
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<div>Computer Specialist, Salem State University Information
Technology Services</div>
<div>General Manager, WMWM Salem</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Ben
Salomon <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bensalomon84@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:bensalomon84@gmail.com">bensalomon84@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
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I want to be on the mailing list for boston critical mass,
but i'm<br>
this is boreder line spam<br>
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:54 PM, <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:thom3@aol.com"><a href="mailto:thom3@aol.com">thom3@aol.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
> That's an ongoing situ that will be well,
ongoing, I keep trying to think of<br>
> better ways to approach motorists on this...<br>
><br>
> BUT, BUT,did anyone read this<br>
><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.boston.com/business/technology/innoeco/2010/08/buzzing_around_boston_on_pietz.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.boston.com/business/technology/innoeco/2010/08/buzzing_around_boston_on_pietz.html">http://www.boston.com/business/technology/innoeco/2010/08/buzzing_around_boston_on_pietz.html</a></a><br>
><br>
> My immediate thoughts were, is it legal to bike
on the sidewalk, let along<br>
> ride a motorized vehicle on it? And a motorized
vehicle on the esplanade?<br>
> This all seems wrong.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Jym Dyer <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jym@econet.org"><a href="mailto:jym@econet.org">jym@econet.org</a></a>><br>
> To: Boston CM <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org"><a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a></a>><br>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 4:21 pm<br>
> Subject: [*BCM*] Battered Biker Syndrome<br>
><br>
> =v= In response to this _Globe_ article:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2010/07/by_jonathan_simmons_guest_colu_2.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2010/07/by_jonathan_simmons_guest_colu_2.html">http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/brookline/2010/07/by_jonathan_simmons_guest_colu_2.html</a></a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Sean Roche wrote an astute "Battered Biker
Syndrome" blog entry,<br>
><br>
> appended below.<br>
><br>
> <_Jym_><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>
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><br>
><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2010/08/battered-biker-syndrome.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2010/08/battered-biker-syndrome.html">http://newtonstreets.blogspot.com/2010/08/battered-biker-syndrome.html</a></a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Battered Biker Syndrome<br>
><br>
> by Sean Roche<br>
><br>
> Newton Streets and Sidewalks | Tuesday,
03-Aug-2010 at 6:08 AM<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A driver chatting on a cellphone almost hit
Jonathan Simmons,<br>
><br>
> the _Globe_'s On Biking columnist. When
confronted, she told him<br>
><br>
> he had no business on the road. His response? He
wrote a column<br>
><br>
> wondering how biker behavior has contributed to
the "road rage"<br>
><br>
> and proposing a 10-point share-the-road pledge,
six of which<br>
><br>
> points apply exclusively to bikes and one of
which applies only<br>
><br>
> to pedestrians.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Let's break this down. Biker nearly gets killed.
Biker promises<br>
><br>
> to make drivers less angry.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> These are classic symptoms of someone in an
abusive<br>
><br>
> relationship. You harm me or threaten to harm me.
It must<br>
><br>
> be psomething I'm doing. I'll be a better person.
Promise.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Suggesting that there is some causal relationship
between<br>
><br>
> cyclists' behavior and the woman's potentially
fatal actions<br>
><br>
> is just wrong. Let's be clear. There is
absolutely no behavior<br>
><br>
> on the part of a cyclist that excuses or explains
a motorist<br>
><br>
> putting a cyclist in jeopardy. There is nothing
that cyclists do<br>
><br>
> that excuses or explains a motorist being
ignorant of cyclists'<br>
><br>
> right to the road.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Nothing.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Certainly, there are cyclists out there doing
things that are<br>
><br>
> wrong and things that are technically illegal.
Let's identify<br>
><br>
> and address those behaviors. But let's not even
suggest that<br>
><br>
> those behaviors somehow justify the anti-bicycle
sentiment<br>
><br>
> that's demonstrably out there on the road.
Especially -- and<br>
><br>
> this also reflective of abusive relationships --
because of the<br>
><br>
> inherent power differential in the motorist/biker
relationship:<br>
><br>
> motorists' attitudes and behaviors can get a
cyclist killed or<br>
><br>
> seriously injured.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Perhaps most importantly, it's foolish to think
that drivers are<br>
><br>
> going to respect cyclists and give them plenty of
safe cushion<br>
><br>
> if we could just convince those pesky two-wheeled
scofflaws to<br>
><br>
> stop at red lights. Dangerous driving, road rage,
and rampant<br>
><br>
> violations of the rules of the road pre-date the
recent surge in<br>
><br>
> bicycling. Cyclists have just become another
target for the bad<br>
><br>
> actors in our car-dominated culture.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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