[*BCM*] grim scenes saturday... any news?

Greg Howard greg.howard at gmail.com
Sun Aug 2 15:19:30 EDT 2009

once again, Turtle, you are taking it far too far.  The precise same
statements could be made about seat belts -- I've never had occasion
to be saved by one, and there are extreme situations in which it could
conceivably be dangerous -- but not wearing them is just dumb.  You
don't "need" a seat belt to travel from A to B, either.

These arguments don't make sense.  Humans lived for centuries without
vaccination or clean water, too, and there are plenty of 90-year-old
smokers who haven't gotten lung cancer.  That means nothing.  Helmets
are protective.

as I've also sad before, however, that doesn't mean that helmets are
*the* key to safety of bicyclists -- far from it.


On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Turtle<turtle at thewiseturtle.com> wrote:
> Fact is that I've been riding a bike for nearly 40 years and never,
> ever hit my head, nor needed a helmet.  Anyone who says otherwise is
> just being irrational.  We humans biked for a century without helmets,
> and a whole country of humans in Europe do so as well.
> No one "needs" a helmet to travel from point A to point B.  It's
> simply a potentially useful device (and potentially harmful one, as
> well) that some people choose to use.
> But you're free to believe whatever you wish.  And if you believe a
> helmet is necessary for you to go from here to there, then I encourage
> you to put it on as soon as you wake up in the morning, in case
> someone crashes through your front gate and into your home and hits
> you on the head.
> -Turil
> who is always amused at the ridiculousness that some people bother to
> actually write down...
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