[*BCM*] A fine point

[Dan Zarrella]

Thats not a self-serving description at all!

On 1/4/06, rob levy <r.p.levy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Off-topic, I know, but anarchist politics are necessarily leftist.
> Leftist indicates a moral background of improving society and helping
> others whereas rightist indicates rule based on strict adherence the
> law, the "one true way", or the "nation"'s way (viewed as moral) with
> little regard for compassion or empathy.
>
> On 1/4/06, Dan Zarrella <zan at stargeek.com> wrote:
> > lefty?
> > I think we are discussing anarchist politics present in CM, certainly
> not
> > Left-ist politics.
> >
> > On 1/4/06, Jack Zarkauskas < jack.zarkauskas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Based on the newpaper write-up I had originally thought joining the
> bike
> > rides in Boston would be a fun, social activity. I'm glad I have seen
> all
> > these e-mails. I didn't realize I would be joining a "movement" and that
> the
> > group I wanted to enjoy riding with has to be seen as "lefty".
> > >
> > > If anyone has information on other riding groups that aren't as
> > politically charged. could you please forward? Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/4/06, Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com > wrote:
> > > > I see your point in asking it but the example you
> > > > chose for it is a bit out there. A neo-con would of
> > > > course be driving a car in order to support american
> > > > industry and oil interests. Show me one neo-con that
> > > > commutes on a bike.
> > > >
> > > > There are politics here that can't be denied. Not to
> > > > say we should place anylimit on who can and can't
> > > > participate, but that the question is almost
> > > > irrelevant.  CM is an urban movement, which means it's
> > > > got to be lefty to be worth a damn, on top of that it
> > > > uses an anarchist principle of organizing which ties
> > > > it to radicals, or at least people who are willing to
> > > > go against the grain.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would be possible to try and popularize the
> > > > thing to more people and all but you'd have to be
> > > > aware of all the political baggage. Everything's
> > > > political really.
> > > >
> > > > -Pete
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Dan Zarrella <zan at stargeek.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm curious what everyone thinks about the poltical
> > > > > nature of CM?
> > > > > Can CM exist apolitically? Or is this form of bike
> > > > > activism inextricably
> > > > > tied to certain "political" leanings?
> > > > > would a Neo-Con be welcome on the ride?
> > > > > -Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/3/06, Jason Orach < jorach at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan Zarella wrote:
> > > > > > "just as I (perhaps we?) critize the choice
> > > > > between wage slavery and
> > > > > > starvation as no choice at all,"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This isn't a criticism of your beliefs Dan, but
> > > > > one of the big turn
> > > > > > offs for me about CM is the constant crusade
> > > > > against "the machine" and
> > > > > > the constant stream of anarchist politics in the
> > > > > ride, I know a lot of
> > > > > > people feel the same. It alienates a lot of people
> > > > > who aren't
> > > > > > concerned about bringing down the system, but who
> > > > > just want to be able
> > > > > > to ride their bikes in peace on the streets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's work together to promote bikes, and leave
> > > > > our political agendas
> > > > > > at the bike rack.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Jason Orach
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