Thats not a self-serving description at all!<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/4/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">rob levy</b> <<a href="mailto:r.p.levy@gmail.com">r.p.levy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Off-topic, I know, but anarchist politics are necessarily leftist.<br>Leftist indicates a moral background of improving society and helping<br>others whereas rightist indicates rule based on strict adherence the<br>law, the "one true way", or the "nation"'s way (viewed as moral) with
<br>little regard for compassion or empathy.<br><br>On 1/4/06, Dan Zarrella <<a href="mailto:zan@stargeek.com">zan@stargeek.com</a>> wrote:<br>> lefty?<br>> I think we are discussing anarchist politics present in CM, certainly not
<br>> Left-ist politics.<br>><br>> On 1/4/06, Jack Zarkauskas < <a href="mailto:jack.zarkauskas@gmail.com">jack.zarkauskas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Based on the newpaper write-up I had originally thought joining the bike
<br>> rides in Boston would be a fun, social activity. I'm glad I have seen all<br>> these e-mails. I didn't realize I would be joining a "movement" and that the<br>> group I wanted to enjoy riding with has to be seen as "lefty".
<br>> ><br>> > If anyone has information on other riding groups that aren't as<br>> politically charged. could you please forward? Thanks!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 1/4/06, Pete Stidman <
<a href="mailto:pstidman@yahoo.com">pstidman@yahoo.com</a> > wrote:<br>> > > I see your point in asking it but the example you<br>> > > chose for it is a bit out there. A neo-con would of<br>> > > course be driving a car in order to support american
<br>> > > industry and oil interests. Show me one neo-con that<br>> > > commutes on a bike.<br>> > ><br>> > > There are politics here that can't be denied. Not to<br>> > > say we should place anylimit on who can and can't
<br>> > > participate, but that the question is almost<br>> > > irrelevant. CM is an urban movement, which means it's<br>> > > got to be lefty to be worth a damn, on top of that it<br>> > > uses an anarchist principle of organizing which ties
<br>> > > it to radicals, or at least people who are willing to<br>> > > go against the grain.<br>> > ><br>> > > I think it would be possible to try and popularize the<br>> > > thing to more people and all but you'd have to be
<br>> > > aware of all the political baggage. Everything's<br>> > > political really.<br>> > ><br>> > > -Pete<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > --- Dan Zarrella <
<a href="mailto:zan@stargeek.com">zan@stargeek.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > > I'm curious what everyone thinks about the poltical<br>> > > > nature of CM?<br>> > > > Can CM exist apolitically? Or is this form of bike
<br>> > > > activism inextricably<br>> > > > tied to certain "political" leanings?<br>> > > > would a Neo-Con be welcome on the ride?<br>> > > > -Dan<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > On 1/3/06, Jason Orach < <a href="mailto:jorach@gmail.com">jorach@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > Dan Zarella wrote:<br>> > > > > "just as I (perhaps we?) critize the choice
<br>> > > > between wage slavery and<br>> > > > > starvation as no choice at all,"<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > This isn't a criticism of your beliefs Dan, but<br>
> > > > one of the big turn<br>> > > > > offs for me about CM is the constant crusade<br>> > > > against "the machine" and<br>> > > > > the constant stream of anarchist politics in the
<br>> > > > ride, I know a lot of<br>> > > > > people feel the same. It alienates a lot of people<br>> > > > who aren't<br>> > > > > concerned about bringing down the system, but who
<br>> > > > just want to be able<br>> > > > > to ride their bikes in peace on the streets.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > Let's work together to promote bikes, and leave
<br>> > > > our political agendas<br>> > > > > at the bike rack.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > - Jason Orach<br>> > > > > _______________________________________________
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