[*BCM*] summary

contraelolvido at riseup.net contraelolvido at riseup.net
Tue Oct 4 17:35:49 EDT 2005


I'm going to sum up what I meant and then be done with this conversation
(unless it gets alot more interesting).

>> > Are you saying that a law, such as 'no double parking',
>> > targets the poor?  I don't get it.
>>
>> =v= No need to ask "Are you saying ... ?" because as he
>> already wrote, part of the problem is that ENFORCEMENT
>> is disproportionately directed towards communities that
>> are disenfranchised.
>>     <_Jym_>

> Really?  My sense was that his point was that fines are regressive... a
> $100
> ticket is a mere frustration to a true middle class citizen, but a real
> hardship
> to someone living closer to the poverty line.  Did he actually write
> enforcement, or was that your interpretation/memory?
>
>  - stomv

My thoughts are both. The law in the abstract doesn't have any effect on
anyone. Rather it is the consequences of the law, namely enforcement, that
have a disproportionate effect. It's an attempt to apply an 'equal'
requirenment on two laregely 'unequal' actors.

Any given fine has a much larger effect on people with less money, that's
obvious enough. Even a proportional fine based on income still wouldn't
make sense, since you would have to consider disposable income, not raw
income (not to mention savings, and amount of property) before you could
even claim that a fine was 'equivalent' - which make a simple fine a
ridiculously complex matter. In general any form of fine/tax is harder on
the poor.

I think it's also an obvious truth that the actions of police towards a
middle class biker (spandex bike pants, fancy bike - often white in
cambridge) and a poor, often black or hispanic, biker are greatly
different. To deny that is simply to show a level of ignorance and how far
removed you are from the life in a city (not saying that anyone
necessarily on here denies that).

I also believe that this isn't the fault of bad police, or racist police
(nor a poorly planned fine), but of problems that are much more
fundamental. I'm not advocating that Massbike apply a vulgar marxist
analysis or any such nonesense, but be mindful that the issues that are
encountered in bike advocacy are largely systematic and not functional.
This is why I would contend that while with the best of intents, Massbike
applies solutions to problems that are heavily biased by the class
character of massbike (whether their solutions are 'right' or 'wrong' is a
whole other issue), which is largely middle class.
-- 
...the best place for [an eskimo] to store his surplus is in someone
else's stomach...
                - Robert Wright, The Logic of Human Destiny



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