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motor, or a non-pedal bicycle which has a motor, with a cylinder =
capacity not
exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and which =
is
capable of a maximum speed of no more than thirty miles per =
hour.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Motorized scooters are intended to be those things =
kids zip
around on, however the law is extremely vague on defining one. You need =
a
drivers license or permit, can ride in bike lanes except limited-use
recreational paths, and must pass on the right. 20MPH limit. They can't =
be
operated during night hours. -- MGL 90: "Motorized scooter'', =
any 2
wheeled tandem or 3 wheeled device, that has handlebars, designed to be =
stood
or sat upon by the operator, powered by an electric or gas powered motor =
that
is capable of propelling the device with or without human propulsion. =
The
definition of "motorized scooter'' shall not include a motorcycle =
or
motorized bicycle or a 3 wheeled motorized =
wheelchair. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>A "Motorcycle'' is any motor =
vehicle having
a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not =
more
than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with =
a
motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle =
designed
for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an =
industrial
three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger =
ride
within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Regular bicycles are not defined in the general =
laws, but
there are laws about them, including that all bicycles must follow the =
regular
rules of the road -- with the exception of passing both left and =
right.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>So, this leaves us with a problem with the electric =
bicycle
given before. Technically, it could be a motorcycle? But motorized =
bicycles
must have real engines? So what is it, and what laws are required of it? =
These
classifications, and what it is have a lot to do with where it is =
allowed to be
parked, and what ways it can be on. Technically, if a nice greenery path =
allows
bicycles, it is excluding anything that's not a bicycle -- except =
bicycle isn't
defined.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Honestly, I think Massachusetts should just rewrite =
all the
classifications to contain more specific information.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>--------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Angela Morley<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Founder & CEO, ionFyre =
Technologies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Computer Specialist, Salem State University =
Information
Technology Services<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>General Manager, WMWM Salem<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Timothy Gorin =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:tgorin at gmail.com">tgorin at gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>it was just a suggestion, do what you will. =
it just
seems counterproductive if people to unsubscribe because they =
find a
somewhat tangential conversation a little =
annoying.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mars <<a
href=3D"mailto:martian at mit.edu" =
target=3D"_blank">martian at mit.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>Compared to other BCM list threads?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 8/10/2010 4:18 PM, Timothy Gorin wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>seems like this =
convo is
between a small group of individuals...maybe you all could start your =
own email
thread for the purposes of this discussion? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jym Dyer <<a
href=3D"mailto:jym at econet.org" target=3D"_blank">jym at econet.org</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>> The bottom line =
is that
true mopeds (motorized bicycles with<br>
> pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same<br>
> kind of issues as motor scooters.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>=3Dv=3D The bottom line is that this is =
increasingly off-topic<br>
for a Critical Mass list, given that Critical Mass is, at<br>
bare minimum, about bicycles on streets.<br>
<span style=3D'color:#888888'> =
<_Jym_></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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