[*BCM*] Bostoncriticalmass Digest, Vol 69, Issue 9

[Philip Stango]

Yes, let's not go down this road. I won't even engage the topic of banning a
type of bicycle, though I'm chomping at the bit. Let's just say: know your
bike, know your stopping distance, don't go faster than you can stop, know
that this changes based on road conditions. Any bicycle that is in good
mechanical shape can be ridden safely in the city. Any type of bike, any
tire size, can suffice as long as the rider knows his/her bike and its
limitations. And of course, there are times when all precautions are taken
and something uncontrollable happens and things go wrong. Let's not start a
firestorm here. Remember the topic at hand, and the accident that started it
all. To speak from experience, I found it moving when a CM ride stopped on
Huntington at the ghost bike of Gordon Riker. Riders stopped in front of the
bike (momentarily blocking traffic) and raised bikes in the air, a moment of
silence was had, and I don't recall any pushback from drivers. I think it
was clear what was going on. Signage could help with this. I think there's
enough support for this to be a commemorative ride for it to be such. If
enough folks are not feeling that, they can go their own way (as the song
goes...). That's the beauty of CM. Let's try to keep this respectful. If I'm
run down by an auto, I wouldn't want my name to be on the subject line of a
debate about fixies in cities.

Respectfully,
Phil Stango

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>   1. Re: Memory of Eric M. Hunt (TSmith4918 at aol.com)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:39:32 EDT
> From: TSmith4918 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Memory of Eric M. Hunt
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> ban fixies in cities...yeah, they're hip,cool, fashionable, and good  for
> uninterrupted riding but they don't make sense on city streets no matter
>  how
> skilled a rider one is (traffic is not that predictable, esp in
> Boston)....I can't count the number of times I have seen fixie-riders
> exhibit  some
> significant degree of difficulty in controlling their speed or not  braking
> at
> all at intersections...too many close calls (come to think of it I  could
> say the same for a lot of freewheelers as well)...my two cents.
>
> In a message dated 4/11/2010 11:46:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> thom3 at aol.com writes:
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> Other  ideas?
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> From: rob levy <r.p.levy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Memory of Eric M. Hunt
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> Ban cars in cities.
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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:39 AM,  <TSmith4918 at aol.com> wrote:
> > ban fixies in cities...yeah, they're hip,cool, fashionable,?and good for
> > uninterrupted riding but they don't make sense on city streets no matter
> > how?skilled a rider one is (traffic is not that predictable, esp in
> > Boston)....I can't count the number of times I have seen fixie-riders
> > exhibit some significant degree of difficulty in controlling their?speed
> or
> > not braking at all at intersections...too many close calls (come to think
> of
> > it I could say the same for a lot of freewheelers as well)...my two
> cents.
> >
> > In a message dated 4/11/2010 11:46:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > thom3 at aol.com writes:
> >
> > Other ideas?
> >
> > --------------------
> > Angela Morley
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> >
> > Tim Smith
> > Associate
> > Tise Design Associates
> > 246 Walnut Street #303
> > Newton, MA 02460
> > 617.581.6601 x224
> > tsmith at tisedesign.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:15:14 EDT
> From: TSmith4918 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Memory of Eric M. Hunt
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> In a message dated 4/12/2010 8:59:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> r.p.levy at gmail.com writes:
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> Ban cars  in cities.
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> touche...even better!
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> Tim Smith
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:18:01 -0400
> From: Brendan Larrabee <yoyoboy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Memory of Eric M. Hunt
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> Banning all cars would be highly punitive towards to manufactures' cars
> that
> are capable of stopping safely. If you want to ban fixies, you really
> should
> consider banning Toyotas as well.
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>  Brendan Larrabee
>  bdlarrabee.smugmug.com
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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, <TSmith4918 at aol.com> wrote:
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> >   In a message dated 4/12/2010 8:59:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > r.p.levy at gmail.com writes:
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> > Ban cars in cities.
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> > touche...even better!
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> > Tim Smith
> > Associate
> > Tise Design Associates
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jym Dyer <jym at econet.org>
> Subject: [*BCM*] Memory of Sensible Subject Titles
> To: Boston CM <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
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> =v= You know, it's peachy fine to go on and on about anarchy,
> fixies, etc.  It's also inevitable (if not entirely fine) that
> folks are going to post defensive self-justifications to email
> lists over online dustups.
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> =v= It would be a lot better to have such discussions, however,
> under more appropriate "Subject:" headers.  None of this has
> anything to do with the memory of the deceased, and it's very
> disrespectful to attach your random braindroppings to his name.
>    <_Jym_>
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