[*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on Mass. Ave.

[Wolfe, Anne]

I'd have no problem minding them of the infractions by motorists, but I
wouldn't expect it to get you out of a ticket if you run a red light and
are caught.

 

Any more than I'd expect a motorist running a red light saying "well
that cyclist ran a red light and nothing happened to him" to get them
out of their ticket.  

 

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From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
Lee Peters
Sent: 06 March 2008 15:39
To: Boston Critical Mass
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on Mass.
Ave.

 

So, have any of you attempted to REMIND Cambridge 5-0 about the list of
infractions by motorists?  what is the result of that during a bike
traffic stop?

 

I figure I couldn't hold back on what Rob listed - including the 9000
factors, to identify the lack of parity in treatment of motorists and
bicyclists.

 

 

 

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Rob Arnold <mailto:rsarnold at gmail.com>  

	To: Boston Critical Mass <mailto:list at bostoncriticalmass.org>  

	Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:23 AM

	Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on
Mass. Ave.

	 

	You are, actually, required by law to produce an ID. I've had
success contesting these kinds of tickets, but it's definitely easiest
to just pay the twenty bucks. Consider it a speed tax. And the moral of
the story is don't run red lights in front of Cambridge cops; you'll get
a ticket most times. Now if they only were that reliable about ticketing
people parked in the bike lane, or double parked cars in general, or
jaywalkers, or people who run lights late, or speeders, or buses that
don't give enough room when they pass, or the nine thousand other
factors that contribute to the axis of chaos that Mass Ave in Cambridge
is.

	On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Wolfe, Anne
<Anne.Wolfe at theaa.com> wrote:

	What does having a car, insurance or a license have to do with
it?  It
	is a government issued ticket, and if you don't pay they can
take action
	against you to ensure payment. The production of ID was so that
they had
	someone (and preferably an address) to track you down if you
don't pay.
	And if it goes to court, etc, then you get to pay court costs as
well.
	
	As someone else said the moral of the story is obey the traffic
lights.
	Bikes are traffic, bikes obey traffic lights.

	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
	[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On
Behalf Of
	Gondaba
	Sent: 06 March 2008 14:30
	To: Boston Critical Mass
	Subject: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on
Mass. Ave.
	
	Ridiculous. I was in Cambridge on Mass Ave, right in front of
the large
	MIT crosswalk. The crosswalk had a red light, sure, but it was
pretty
	clear and I was in no danger of hitting the poor little
pedestrians. A
	Cambridge Cop standing next to his motorcycle flags three of us
down
	after the crosswalk and tells us to stay put. He proceeds to ask
for our
	
	IDs and issue each one of us a $20 fine.
	
	The ticket itself seems to be some kind of civil violation;
there was a
	nice little place for "Bicycle / Red Light" that he checked off,
amongst
	
	a host of other bicycle violations and, for example, "Improper
disposal
	of dog feces," which is a $25 fine.
	
	Has this happened to anyone else before?
	And, because I don't have a car, insurance, or even a license,
do I
	really have to pay this fine? What're they going to do?
	
	Be wary, fellow red-light runners...
	
	Chris
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