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no problem minding them of the infractions by motorists, but I wouldn’t
expect it to get you out of a ticket if you run a red light and are caught.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:blue'>Any more than I’d
expect a motorist running a red light saying “well that cyclist ran a red
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[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lee Peters<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 06 March 2008 15:39<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Boston Critical Mass<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [*BCM*] Just got
"pulled over" for running a red on <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on">Mass. Ave.</st1:address></st1:Street></span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So, have any of you attempted to REMIND <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cambridge</st1:place></st1:City> 5-0 about the list of infractions
by motorists? what is the result of that during a bike traffic stop?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I figure I couldn't hold back on what Rob listed - including
the 9000 factors, to identify the lack of parity in treatment of motorists and
bicyclists.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:rsarnold@gmail.com" title="rsarnold@gmail.com">Rob Arnold</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org" title="list@bostoncriticalmass.org">Boston
Critical Mass</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, March
06, 2008 10:23 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [*BCM*] Just
got "pulled over" for running a red on <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on">Mass. Ave.</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>You are, actually,
required by law to produce an ID. I've had success contesting these kinds of
tickets, but it's definitely easiest to just pay the twenty bucks. Consider it
a speed tax. And the moral of the story is don't run red lights in front of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cambridge</st1:place></st1:City> cops; you'll
get a ticket most times. Now if they only were that reliable about ticketing
people parked in the bike lane, or double parked cars in general, or
jaywalkers, or people who run lights late, or speeders, or buses that don't
give enough room when they pass, or the nine thousand other factors that
contribute to the axis of chaos that Mass Ave in Cambridge is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Wolfe, Anne <<a
href="mailto:Anne.Wolfe@theaa.com">Anne.Wolfe@theaa.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What does having a car, insurance or a license have to do with it?
It<br>
is a government issued ticket, and if you don't pay they can take action<br>
against you to ensure payment. The production of ID was so that they had<br>
someone (and preferably an address) to track you down if you don't pay.<br>
And if it goes to court, etc, then you get to pay court costs as well.<br>
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As someone else said the moral of the story is obey the traffic lights.<br>
Bikes are traffic, bikes obey traffic lights.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org">bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org">bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
Gondaba<br>
Sent: 06 March 2008 14:30<br>
To: Boston Critical Mass<br>
Subject: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on <st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Mass. Ave.</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<br>
Ridiculous. I was in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cambridge</st1:place></st1:City>
on <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Mass Ave</st1:address></st1:Street>,
right in front of the large<br>
MIT crosswalk. The crosswalk had a red light, sure, but it was pretty<br>
clear and I was in no danger of hitting the poor little pedestrians. A<br>
Cambridge Cop standing next to his motorcycle flags three of us down<br>
after the crosswalk and tells us to stay put. He proceeds to ask for our<br>
<br>
IDs and issue each one of us a $20 fine.<br>
<br>
The ticket itself seems to be some kind of civil violation; there was a<br>
nice little place for "Bicycle / Red Light" that he checked off,
amongst<br>
<br>
a host of other bicycle violations and, for example, "Improper disposal<br>
of dog feces," which is a $25 fine.<br>
<br>
Has this happened to anyone else before?<br>
And, because I don't have a car, insurance, or even a license, do I<br>
really have to pay this fine? What're they going to do?<br>
<br>
Be wary, fellow red-light runners...<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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