[*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

Basil Sharpe bsharpe at redcoatpublishing.com
Fri Sep 28 12:02:45 EDT 2007


OK Adam,

         I believe I said It's good to always think of the other guy and
his circumstances,  maybe that's not empathy to you but it is to me. 

 

Good on the SUPER HEROES, the Cyclist who chased James down and the
police on taking him off the street.   He should get rehab, as someone
else said while in jail so perhaps next time he doest blind someone or
worse.   

Basil

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From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
Adam Shoop
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:33 AM
To: 'Boston Critical Mass'
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

 

Basil: We're not speaking about a hypothetical, at least as far as I
know.  He was charged with assault and battery, and I'm assuming that
there are particular sentencing guidelines for that.  

 

As I also stated fairly clearly, although this isn't an abstract
discussion about incarceration and whether that's an appropriate
institution for human beings, recidivism ought to be a legitimate
concern.  I think that's a pretty conservative remark, really.  You
don't even have to acknowledge sympathy for the "perp" if you don't like
to, but it seems that if one is concerned with further crimes against
property or persons - being blinded for life, if you like - then
rehabilitation and opportunities for convicted criminals ought to be
considered.

 

Neither I, nor Paul so far as I know, said that we fundamentally
disagree with the judicial system punishing people for crimes.  In my
opinion though, it seems rather self-righteous to think that super
heroes have saved the day simply by taking him off the street.

 

Adam

 

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[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
thom3 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:22 AM
To: list at bostoncriticalmass.org
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

 

Exactly maybe James is one of those onse who can't cut it... oh wait, he
had bolt cutters

 



-----Original Message-----
From: Basil Sharpe <bsharpe at redcoatpublishing.com>
To: Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

So when James took a swing at the bicycle owner, what if those bolt
cutters took the bicycle owner's eyes out and he was blinded for life.
So he may not have lost his bike but he may have been seriously injured
or worse.   Would we still feel the same apathy for James?    It's good
to always think of the other guy and his circumstances but how far does
one take this?   

 

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From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
<mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org?> ] On Behalf
Of Adam Shoop
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:00 AM
To: 'Boston Critical Mass'
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

 

Although I won't speak for Paul Centro, it seemed like his proposal was
pretty straightforward, nothing to do with taking him into his home.  He
simply asked, how good should we feel when a possibly "repeat offender"
is taken off the street (for a period of time) without any avenues
toward rehabilitation.  Even without supposing that it was for a drug
habit, there are little to no opportunities or training for job
training.  As Paul mentioned, the person is going to face serious CORI
problems with employers (and this would be true even if he was
acquitted), though that issue has been gaining greater attention
recently.

 

Maybe you can make an argument that certain criminals or types of crimes
ought to be removed from the street but even if that's the case, it
seems like a pyrrhic victory if recidivism receives no attention.

 

Adam

 

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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:53 AM
To: list at bostoncriticalmass.org
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Cyclist foils heist, Boston Phoenix 9/28

 

I know this is not the answer anyone wants to hear, but that's why we
have judges, who hopefully serve as judicious carriers of what's best
for the individual and what's best for society. 

There are plenty of hard luck cases out there, but like asking about
riding scooter at a CM event, I'll ask this, would you take this dude
into your home? 

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