[*BCM*] Would you take this dude into your home?

[thom3 at aol.com]

self righteous? Dudes thwart criminal in high fashion... that's good stuff. EOS. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Shoop <info at adamshoop.org>
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Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:32 am
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Basil: We’re not speaking about a hypothetical, at least as far as I know.  He was charged with assault and battery, and I’m assuming that there are particular sentencing guidelines for that.  

 

As I also stated fairly clearly, although this isn’t an abstract discussion about incarceration and whether that’s an appropriate institution for human beings, recidivism ought to be a legitimate concern.  I think that’s a pretty conservative remark, really.  You don’t even have to acknowledge sympathy for the “perp” if you don’t like to, but it seems that if one is concerned with further crimes against property or persons – being blinded for life, if you like – then rehabilitation and opportunities for convicted criminals ought to be considered.

 

Neither I, nor Paul so far as I know, said that we fundamentally disagree with the judicial system punishing people for crimes.  In my opinion though, it seems rather self-righteous to think that super heroes have saved the day simply by taking him off the street.

 

Adam

 




From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org [mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of thom3 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:22 AM
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Exactly maybe James is one of those onse who can't cut it... oh wait, he had bolt cutters


 




-----Original Message-----
From: Basil Sharpe <bsharpe at redcoatpublishing.com>
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Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:16 am
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So when James took a swing at the bicycle owner, what if those bolt cutters took the bicycle owner’s eyes out and he was blinded for life.  So he may not have lost his bike but he may have been seriously injured or worse.   Would we still feel the same apathy for James?    It’s good to always think of the other guy and his circumstances but how far does one take this?   



 






From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org [mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of Adam Shoop
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:00 AM
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Although I won’t speak for Paul Centro, it seemed like his proposal was pretty straightforward, nothing to do with taking him into his home.  He simply asked, how good should we feel when a possibly “repeat offender” is taken off the street (for a period of time) without any avenues toward rehabilitation.  Even without supposing that it was for a drug habit, there are little to no opportunities or training for job training.  As Paul mentioned, the person is going to face serious CORI problems with employers (and this would be true even if he was acquitted), though that issue has been gaining greater attention recently.



 



Maybe you can make an argument that certain criminals or types of crimes ought to be removed from the street but even if that’s the case, it seems like a pyrrhic victory if recidivism receives no attention.



 



Adam



 






From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org [mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of thom3 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:53 AM
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I know this is not the answer anyone wants to hear, but that's why we have judges, who hopefully serve as judicious carriers of what's best for the individual and what's best for society. 

There are plenty of hard luck cases out there, but like asking about riding scooter at a CM event, I'll ask this, would you take this dude into your home? 








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