[*BCM*] Scooters in the bike lanes

[Zarkauskas, John A]

Look - Bikes go wherever they want. Just be careful, enjoy yourself  and
stop looking for or adding more laws to eliminate others.....  

 

 

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thom3 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:33 AM
To: surreal at alum.mit.edu
Cc: list at bostoncriticalmass.org
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Scooters in the bike lanes

 

I believe I already sent out the sections.... but I've been busy hiking
and INet access is limited, so you can take my word, look it up or dig
back a bit in this thread. 

I also emailed Camb City Hall bike contact and am waiting to hear back.
The interesting thing will be Mass State law vs Local law and the
interpretations by authorities.

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: Robotica <androidqueen at gmail.com>
To: thom3 <thom3 at aol.com>
Cc: Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
Sent: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [*BCM*] Scooters in the bike lanes

Usually, the burden of proof rests on those making assertions.  :)
 
On 9/22/07, thom3 <thom3 at aol.com> wrote:
> You need to look harder re camb.
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Robotica <androidqueen at gmail.com>
> To: "Boston Critical Mass" <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
> Date: Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Scooters in the bike lanes
> 
> 25 MPH is much faster than a cyclist?
> 
> It sounds to me like you're railing against irresponsible use of the
> bike lane, not scooter use of a bike lane.  I'd be concerned about a
> cyclist weaving in and out of traffic just as much.  I'd even say that
> I've nearly been hit by irresponsible cyclists much more often than
> I've nearly been hit by irresponsible scooter operators.
> 
> Also, the only laws I can find that say scooters aren't allowed on
> bike paths in Cambridge specifically state off-street bike paths, not
> bike lanes. It looks like they are otherwise treated like bicycles.
> 
> -m
> 
> On 9/22/07, ThoM3 at aol.com <ThoM3 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Scooters and Moped can go 25 MPH, much faster than cyclist, they use
the
> > bike land for passing cars on the right and the road for cyclist on
the left
> > and weave. A scooter or moped has a bigger imprint, and is less
agile when
> > in comes to passing in tight quarters and thus creates a less safe
> > environment for bikers.
> >
> > You're point about cars is funny and spot on. It is however illegal
for a
> > car to be in the bike lane and according to Cambridge law, it's
illegal for
> > mopeds and scooters as well.
> >
> > In a message dated 9/22/2007 3:41:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > symboliceon at hotmail.com writes:
> > who the hell cares about scooters? i pass them like anyone else on a
bike,
> > so obviously i just see them as other cyclists.. tho slower and
lazier. the
> > bike lane serves three purposes for drivers: 1 - a place to drive
slowly in
> > order to find a parking spot. 2 - a reeeeally large area in which
they can
> > throw their driver's side door open without having to worry about
other cars
> > taking it out. 3 - they can double park in the bike lane without
having to
> > worry about getting a ticket as the BTD has a very limited
understanding of
> > things.
> >
> > i guess my point is that roads with bike lanes aren't actually all
that much
> > safer for cyclists. the room on the road is nice and all, but i
think the
> > best way to take control of the situation regarding cyclists vs.
everyone
> > else would be to press for legislation that would include cyclist
awareness
> > in the tests folks have to take in order to gain a license for their
motor
> > vehicles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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