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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ben Salomon <bensalomon84@gmail.com><br>
To: Boston Critical Mass <list@bostoncriticalmass.org><br>
Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:59 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Electro Bike....Re: Battered Biker Syndrome<br>
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<pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>I've recieved 9 e-mails today in my inbox from critical mass, I tried<br>
adding this to my spam list, but I'm still receiving e-mails in my<br>
inbox... who ever is running the show, PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE E_MAIL<br>
LIST!!! thank you ~BEN~<br>
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Steven Bercu <<a href="mailto:bercu@limelaw.com">bercu@limelaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Any thoughts on what is the most effective way to lobby/advocate for the<br>
> following?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1. Better bicycle parking facilities in Boston.<br>
><br>
> 2. Safer bicycle lanes/tracks along major transit corridors in the<br>
> greater Boston area.<br>
><br>
> 3. Clearer definitions in the Mass. General Laws and reg’s regarding<br>
> what is a bicycle.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org">bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org?">mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> Silivrenion<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:06 PM<br>
> To: Boston Critical Mass<br>
> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Electro Bike....Re: Battered Biker Syndrome<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Well then, that's their loss. We're all bombarded with irrelevant<br>
> information everyday, and the Delete button isn't too far away from this<br>
> email if you're not interested.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The laws are really unclear as to the definitions of certain vehicles on the<br>
> road. It appears that this is what we have:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Mopeds, "motorized bicycles," contain a conventional engine of less than<br>
> 50cc, an automatic transmission, max speed of 30MPH (25 operating), and must<br>
> comply with all road rules, and must pass on the right. Mopeds may use<br>
> bicycle lanes, excluding limited-use recreational paths. Requires a<br>
> registration sticker from the RMV, and a drivers license or permit. From MGL<br>
> 90: "Motorized bicycle'', a pedal bicycle which has a helper motor, or a<br>
> non-pedal bicycle which has a motor, with a cylinder capacity not exceeding<br>
> fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and which is capable of<br>
> a maximum speed of no more than thirty miles per hour.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Motorized scooters are intended to be those things kids zip around on,<br>
> however the law is extremely vague on defining one. You need a drivers<br>
> license or permit, can ride in bike lanes except limited-use recreational<br>
> paths, and must pass on the right. 20MPH limit. They can't be operated<br>
> during night hours. -- MGL 90: "Motorized scooter'', any 2 wheeled tandem or<br>
> 3 wheeled device, that has handlebars, designed to be stood or sat upon by<br>
> the operator, powered by an electric or gas powered motor that is capable of<br>
> propelling the device with or without human propulsion. The definition of<br>
> "motorized scooter'' shall not include a motorcycle or motorized bicycle or<br>
> a 3 wheeled motorized wheelchair.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A "Motorcycle'' is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of<br>
> the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact<br>
> with the ground, including any bicycle with a motor or driving wheel<br>
> attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle designed for the carrying of<br>
> golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industrial three-wheel truck,<br>
> a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger ride within an enclosed<br>
> cab, or a motorized bicycle.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regular bicycles are not defined in the general laws, but there are laws<br>
> about them, including that all bicycles must follow the regular rules of the<br>
> road -- with the exception of passing both left and right.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> So, this leaves us with a problem with the electric bicycle given before.<br>
> Technically, it could be a motorcycle? But motorized bicycles must have real<br>
> engines? So what is it, and what laws are required of it? These<br>
> classifications, and what it is have a lot to do with where it is allowed to<br>
> be parked, and what ways it can be on. Technically, if a nice greenery path<br>
> allows bicycles, it is excluding anything that's not a bicycle -- except<br>
> bicycle isn't defined.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Honestly, I think Massachusetts should just rewrite all the classifications<br>
> to contain more specific information.<br>
><br>
> --------------------<br>
><br>
> Angela Morley<br>
><br>
> Founder & CEO, ionFyre Technologies<br>
><br>
> Computer Specialist, Salem State University Information Technology Services<br>
><br>
> General Manager, WMWM Salem<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Timothy Gorin <<a href="mailto:tgorin@gmail.com">tgorin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> it was just a suggestion, do what you will. it just<br>
> seems counterproductive if people to unsubscribe because they find a<br>
> somewhat tangential conversation a little annoying.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mars <<a href="mailto:martian@mit.edu">martian@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Compared to other BCM list threads?<br>
><br>
> On 8/10/2010 4:18 PM, Timothy Gorin wrote:<br>
><br>
> seems like this convo is between a small group of individuals...maybe you<br>
> all could start your own email thread for the purposes of this discussion?<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jym Dyer <<a href="mailto:jym@econet.org">jym@econet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The bottom line is that true mopeds (motorized bicycles with<br>
>> pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same<br>
>> kind of issues as motor scooters.<br>
><br>
> =v= The bottom line is that this is increasingly off-topic<br>
> for a Critical Mass list, given that Critical Mass is, at<br>
> bare minimum, about bicycles on streets.<br>
> <_Jym_><br>
><br>
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