Well then, that's their loss. We're all bombarded with irrelevant information everyday, and the Delete button isn't too far away from this email if you're not interested.<div><br></div><div>The laws are really unclear as to the definitions of certain vehicles on the road. It appears that this is what we have:</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mopeds, "motorized bicycles," contain a conventional engine of less than 50cc, an automatic transmission, max speed of 30MPH (25 operating), and must comply with all road rules, and must pass on the right. Mopeds may use bicycle lanes, excluding limited-use recreational paths. Requires a registration sticker from the RMV, and a drivers license or permit. From MGL 90: "Motorized bicycle'', a pedal bicycle which has a helper motor, or a non-pedal bicycle which has a motor, with a cylinder capacity not exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and which is capable of a maximum speed of no more than thirty miles per hour.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Motorized scooters are intended to be those things kids zip around on, however the law is extremely vague on defining one. You need a drivers license or permit, can ride in bike lanes except limited-use recreational paths, and must pass on the right. 20MPH limit. They can't be operated during night hours. -- MGL 90: "Motorized scooter'', any 2 wheeled tandem or 3 wheeled device, that has handlebars, designed to be stood or sat upon by the operator, powered by an electric or gas powered motor that is capable of propelling the device with or without human propulsion. The definition of "motorized scooter'' shall not include a motorcycle or motorized bicycle or a 3 wheeled motorized wheelchair. </div>
<div><br></div><div>A "Motorcycle'' is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with a motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle designed for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industrial three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger ride within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regular bicycles are not defined in the general laws, but there are laws about them, including that all bicycles must follow the regular rules of the road -- with the exception of passing both left and right.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, this leaves us with a problem with the electric bicycle given before. Technically, it could be a motorcycle? But motorized bicycles must have real engines? So what is it, and what laws are required of it? These classifications, and what it is have a lot to do with where it is allowed to be parked, and what ways it can be on. Technically, if a nice greenery path allows bicycles, it is excluding anything that's not a bicycle -- except bicycle isn't defined.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Honestly, I think Massachusetts should just rewrite all the classifications to contain more specific information.</div><div>--------------------<br><div>Angela Morley</div><div><div>Founder & CEO, ionFyre Technologies</div>
</div><div>Computer Specialist, Salem State University Information Technology Services</div><div>General Manager, WMWM Salem</div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Timothy Gorin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tgorin@gmail.com">tgorin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">it was just a suggestion, do what you will. it just seems counterproductive if people to unsubscribe because they find a somewhat tangential conversation a little annoying.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mars <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martian@mit.edu" target="_blank">martian@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Compared to other BCM list threads?<div><div></div><div><br>
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On 8/10/2010 4:18 PM, Timothy Gorin wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">seems like this convo is between a small group of
individuals...maybe you all could start your own email thread
for the purposes of this discussion? <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jym
Dyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jym@econet.org" target="_blank">jym@econet.org</a>></span>
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<div>> The bottom line is that true mopeds
(motorized bicycles with<br>
> pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the
same<br>
> kind of issues as motor scooters.<br>
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=v= The bottom line is that this is increasingly off-topic<br>
for a Critical Mass list, given that Critical Mass is, at<br>
bare minimum, about bicycles on streets.<br>
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