I definitely think this month's ride should ride past the spot on Huntington where the crash occurred, and maybe even the corner of Charles and Beacon where the other crash happened (does anyone know how that guy is doing?). Would be a good place to display homemade signs or even have a moment of silence.<br>
<br>Best,<br>-Patrick<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Silivrenion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:silivrenion@gmail.com">silivrenion@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Asking for a debate out of something clearly not related to a debate is outright disrespectful, Thom. This message was started as a response to possible ideas to honor a fellow cyclist who shouldn't have had the kind of issue that he did.<div>
<br></div><div>By saying "let the debate begin," you're objectifying someone's life, their attention to a passion of bicycling that they loved into your own argument, and that is insensitive and rude.</div>
<div><br></div><div>By all means, post a new topic to the listserv if you wish to discuss the meaning and perception of BCM, but don't tear up this guy's honor by being so disrespectful.</div><div><br></div><div>
Now on topic, what ideas does the group have of productive things we can do to honor him?</div>
<div><br clear="all">--------------------<br>Angela Morley<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thom3@aol.com" target="_blank">thom3@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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From: Timothy Gorin <<a href="mailto:tgorin@gmail.com" target="_blank">tgorin@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Boston Critical Mass <<a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org" target="_blank">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>><br></div><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="ltr">My vote is that the debate doesn't begin. I'm sure critical mass means a lot of things to a lot of different people and I see no purpose in attempting to define it. I was merely pointing out that I think this listserv shouldn't be a place where a person should feel uncomfortable posting an announcement about the death of a fellow bicyclist...regardless of whether or not that person was a "member" of critical mass.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:36 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thom3@aol.com" target="_blank">thom3@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div> <font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">CM is what it is, many have said it's unclassifiable and ever changing, so those who call it anarchy are putting a label on it and I would imagine many in it feel that it is setting an order; the proclamation of cyclist to use the road with fair rights.<br>
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I do not ride with you because I work nights and will not give up a vacation day to do it but I am in sympathy with everyone on 2 wheels.
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<div>I have been hit twice, once accidental and once on purpose but the closest I have come to death by vehicle was a near miss by one of those goddam articulated 39 buses on its way back to the barn on Columbia Road. They are a menace and should not be on congested city streets.</div>
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<div>I get the impression that CM is organized anarchy if that's possible so I'm not clear who would be dedicating what.. In my world the proceedings would simply start with a moment of silence. <br>
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Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Memory of Eric M. Hunt<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org" target="_blank">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org" target="_blank">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>><br>
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Your question implies that CM is only out to stand up for the rights of
other CM participants. I guess you consider "our community" to not be
fellow cyclists, but just those who know about and choose to ride with
CM.<br>
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another member of our community this wednesday due to a questionable
collision with an MBTA bus in Boston, and though the circumstances of
this tragedy are still under investigation it doesent really matter who
was at fault. Every one of us faces the risk every time we go out
riding in this city and I believe it would be very appropriate to
dedicate this months Critical Mass to his memory. Perhaps a moment of
silence or some home made signs and t shirts, Im not sure but we are a
close knit community and should pay our respect in the best way we can.
You can feel free to email me with any suggestions I will be personally
taking that friday of work to join everyone else in the ride to raise
awareness of our presence on the road and will be riding a neon green
dual shock mountain bike, dont be shy and say whats up. And remember to
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