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years. It was first posted on a site called “Big-Boys”, which was
renamed to Break.Com.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Atkins<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 18, 2008
3:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Boston
Critical Mass</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [*BCM*]
Bostoncriticalmass Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As a cyclist who was hit
by a car last week, I don't get any pleasure from videos like this. Actually, I
think, if the video is real, it is almost a form of "violence
pornography". It should be considered legally obscene to distribute a
video of a person being killed or seriously injured.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Dave Atkins<br>
<a href="http://blog.davewrites.com">http://blog.davewrites.com</a><br>
<a href="http://westwoodblog.org">http://westwoodblog.org</a><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Matt Woolhouse <<a
href="mailto:matwoolhouse@yahoo.com">matwoolhouse@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I don't think there is anyplace for a video like this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Is it right to take pleasure watching a video where someone gets their
ass handed to them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Robotica
<<a href="mailto:androidqueen@gmail.com" target="_blank">androidqueen@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Boston
Critical Mass</st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org"
target="_blank">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 18, 2008
2:29:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [*BCM*]
Bostoncriticalmass Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12<br>
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Agreed. There's a major difference between being sympathetic to cyclists
and taking pleasure in the fact that someone who may have been about to do
something nasty to a cyclist was seriously injured or killed.<br>
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-m<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Rachel Elizabeth Dillon <<a
href="mailto:rachel@akrasiac.org" target="_blank">rachel@akrasiac.org</a>>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at
06:59:14PM +0000, Martin Rodriguez wrote:<br>
> OK, correct me if I'm wrong: the kid in the car was trying to do<br>
> what exactly to a cyclist? Hit him? Knock him off his bike?
What was<br>
> his intention? Suppose he had been successful in knocking the
cyclist<br>
> off of his bike, and it was the cyclist who was seriously injured?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It's hard to tell for sure, but it looks like he was trying to injure<br>
the cyclist; or, rather, he was trying to somehow spook or shove the<br>
cyclist in a way likely to cause injury. A brief googling hasn't turned<br>
up anything authoritative.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> I got on this email list because of an incident on my bike where some<br>
> passing motorists threw something out their windows at me as they passed<br>
> in their car. I really don't like people in cars who do stuff like
this<br>
> to cyclists. My sympathies are ALWAYS with the cyclists, and I hoped<br>
> that viewpoint would be shared by others in this group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I like to think I have enough sympathy for both the cyclist and the kid<br>
who got hit by the car; it's not a zero-sum game. The cyclist didn't<br>
deserve to get injured by some kid pulling what he thought was a prank,<br>
and the kid didn't deserve to die for pulling a dangerous prank at<br>
someone else's expense. I'm not rushing to pay his funeral expenses<br>
and console his family, but if he had injured the cyclist, been caught<br>
on camera, and been brought to trial, I don't think any of us would be<br>
seriously advocating the death penalty. (At least, I would hope that<br>
viewpoint to be shared by others in the group, too.)<br>
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-r.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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