Actually, yes. I got snagged in one of the periodic traps they set up in front of City Hall, and haggled for about five minutes about all the other traffic violations they were missing. It didn't really matter, and I ended up paying the ticket anyway. So, you know: "I fought the law and the law won."<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Lee Peters <<a href="mailto:leepeters@gis.net">leepeters@gis.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So, have any of you attempted to REMIND Cambridge
5-0 about the list of infractions by motorists? what is the result of that
during a bike traffic stop?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I figure I couldn't hold back on what Rob listed -
including the 9000 factors, to identify the lack of parity in treatment of
motorists and bicyclists.</font></div>
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="rsarnold@gmail.com" href="mailto:rsarnold@gmail.com" target="_blank">Rob Arnold</a>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="list@bostoncriticalmass.org" href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org" target="_blank">Boston Critical Mass</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:23
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled
over" for running a red on Mass. Ave.</div>
<div><br></div>You are, actually, required by law to produce an ID. I've had
success contesting these kinds of tickets, but it's definitely easiest to just
pay the twenty bucks. Consider it a speed tax. And the moral of the story is
don't run red lights in front of Cambridge cops; you'll get a ticket most
times. Now if they only were that reliable about ticketing people parked in
the bike lane, or double parked cars in general, or jaywalkers, or people who
run lights late, or speeders, or buses that don't give enough room when they
pass, or the nine thousand other factors that contribute to the axis of chaos
that Mass Ave in Cambridge is.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Wolfe, Anne <<a href="mailto:Anne.Wolfe@theaa.com" target="_blank">Anne.Wolfe@theaa.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">What
does having a car, insurance or a license have to do with it? It<br>is
a government issued ticket, and if you don't pay they can take
action<br>against you to ensure payment. The production of ID was so that
they had<br>someone (and preferably an address) to track you down if you
don't pay.<br>And if it goes to court, etc, then you get to pay court costs
as well.<br><br>As someone else said the moral of the story is obey the
traffic lights.<br>Bikes are traffic, bikes obey traffic lights.<br>
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On Behalf Of<br>Gondaba<br>Sent: 06 March 2008 14:30<br>To: Boston Critical
Mass<br>Subject: [*BCM*] Just got "pulled over" for running a red on Mass.
Ave.<br><br>Ridiculous. I was in Cambridge on Mass Ave, right in front of
the large<br>MIT crosswalk. The crosswalk had a red light, sure, but it was
pretty<br>clear and I was in no danger of hitting the poor little
pedestrians. A<br>Cambridge Cop standing next to his motorcycle flags three
of us down<br>after the crosswalk and tells us to stay put. He proceeds to
ask for our<br><br>IDs and issue each one of us a $20 fine.<br><br>The
ticket itself seems to be some kind of civil violation; there was a<br>nice
little place for "Bicycle / Red Light" that he checked off, amongst<br><br>a
host of other bicycle violations and, for example, "Improper disposal<br>of
dog feces," which is a $25 fine.<br><br>Has this happened to anyone else
before?<br>And, because I don't have a car, insurance, or even a license, do
I<br>really have to pay this fine? What're they going to do?<br><br>Be wary,
fellow red-light
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