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<DIV>I don't think I said we NEED RULES. It was not my intent. I was citing the
fact that people we citing rules as part of the bigger issue... I just want to
make that as clear as the sky is blue and calling me to ride today.</DIV>
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<DIV>And the scooter thing was more a rhetorical Q I used about riding scooters
in a bike lane, I never really thought anyone would show up at CM on a scooter
or that CM should ban them, because as you state, it would be asinine all the
way around. Imagine if a car wanted to join us? </DIV>
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<DIV>That said there are some loose rules we do adhere to in a literal sense
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<DIV>In a message dated 9/29/2007 8:52:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hyamada@MIT.EDU writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Not only
that, but "rules" and any system of hierarchy or structure <BR>organization
are kind of contrary to CM in and of itself.<BR><BR>Some are just common sense
(get out of the way of fire and ambulance, and <BR>I'm sorry for those of you
that want to "stick it to the man," but police <BR>w/ sirens on count for this
rule too. They're first responders to any 911 <BR>call, and they're more often
than not trying to help someone, not just <BR>fuck us over.) whereas others,
like limiting scooters or whatnot, are kind <BR>of asinine and probably not
going to be well received by CMers as a whole. <BR>If someone stands up and
says "hey all we're gonna pull out now and btw <BR>make sure you've read your
weekly rules and regs digest," there'd probably <BR>be confusion and
resentment to say the least.<BR><BR>just my 2 digs,<BR>--yuki<BR><BR>(that
said yesterday was my first CM in boston and it was awesome, so <BR>thanks to
everyone who was there and that made it fun)<BR><BR>On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Lee
Peters wrote:<BR><BR>> Your intentions are pure and many on this list agree
with your intentions. Everyone has to realize that many participants at
the ride itself are not on this listserve. Setting up ground rules would
take communicating your intentions to the hundreds of actual riders to change
CM. You may even find resistance to rules among the members of the list,
too.<BR>><BR>> If you try, I am sure you will make some progress and
find allies.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: ThoM3@aol.com<BR>> To:
list@bostoncriticalmass.org<BR>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007
10:16 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] This is the coolest thread I've
ever been a member of<BR>><BR>><BR>> While this email does not
make entire sense, it raises some long standing concerns with CM, mostly
underscored by the proposed "loose rules" outlined earlier and the
Cantabridgian who saw CM not yield to an ambulance.<BR>><BR>> In
recent rides (I was not there tonite) I have seen an increase in a) running
red lights (not massing and passing) b) a lack of desire to mass up c)
antagonizing motorists trapped and d) worst of all, a desire to get into it
with the cops.<BR>><BR>> While run ins with cops has always been
an issue, people were smart about it, dealing with the authorities, not bait
and run. This is just wrong and defeats the purpose of
CM.<BR>><BR>> I love you guys, but we need to bring it back to
square one..<BR>><BR>><BR>> In a message dated 9/28/2007
9:40:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mholley345@aol.com writes:<BR>>
Well I just got back from CM and there were a number of things I would
like to bring up, as we bike to assert our rights on the road<BR>>
it's important to realize that we are pissing some people off, who
cares right but when our group breaks down and we become single riders again
there is a certain amount of peril involved I personally was assaulted by a
New Hampshire driver several years ago after I separated from the group
and even tonite after<BR>> i was sepated in Camb the cops were
somewhat hostile, anyway i must go but please be aware of this and i'm
inteerested in knowing if there are other<BR>> people who have
experienced the same,<BR>> On another tact
we should always ride around City Hall and the statehouse, that may have been
the most fulfilling moment I have ever had at CM<BR>> that and
stopping on The bridge to admirew the beauty of a moonrise, Thanks to
all who attended and to all those who gawked.
Michael<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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