On 5/10/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tripp Hyde</b> <<a href="mailto:henrythehorrible@gmail.com">henrythehorrible@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Haha. How much was the ticket? Not the same amount as if you were<br>driving a car I hope?</blockquote><div><br>
Only $20. <br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> They didn't ask for your license number did<br>they (if you have one)?</blockquote>
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Nope. So that quip about "What are they going to do, raise my
insurance rate?" holds true. They did ask for my drivers'
license, though... hmm.<br>
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-Jess<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On 5/10/06, Jess <<a href="mailto:novelbound@gmail.com">novelbound@gmail.com</a>
> wrote:<br>> > But everyday I see cyclists blow through a red light when a cop is<br>> > overlooking the street traffic and they don't seem to mind.<br>><br>> I thought this too for the longest time -- indeed, when I "learned" to bike
<br>> in city traffic by watching other bikers, running reds when traffic was<br>> clear was one of the things I picked up on.<br>><br>> Then last month I got ticketed for running a red near Porter Square! (Noo!)
<br>> Yup, an official two-wheeled traffic violation. After I got over my shock<br>> at getting ticketed on a BIKE, it was funny.<br>><br>> I guess cars give me an equally hard time for running and for *not* running
<br>> reds (i.e. being in their way come the green light), so I might as well obey<br>> that particular traffic law. At least, on Mass Ave near Porter.<br>><br>> -Jess<br>> (briefly delurking)<br>><br>
><br>> On 5/8/06, Justin Wong <<a href="mailto:lilwong@bu.edu">lilwong@bu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>> > I always wondered about #3. Technically CM would be breaking the law...<br>> > But everyday I see cyclists blow through a red light when a cop is
<br>> > overlooking the street traffic and they don't seem to mind.<br>> ><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: <a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org">bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org
</a><br>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org">bostoncriticalmass-bounces@bostoncriticalmass.org</a><br>> ] On Behalf Of<br>> > turtle<br>> > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:10 AM
<br>> > To: Boston Critical Mass<br>> > Subject: [*BCM*] Cyclists "shall be subject to the traffic laws<br>> > andregulations of the Commonwealth"<br>> ><br>> > Indeed, in Massachusetts, bicyclists must follow all state traffic laws,
<br>> > signs, and signals, including those that apply to "motor vehicles".<br>> > According to state law (Chapter 85, section 11B, see:<br>> > <a href="http://massbike.org/bikelaw/">http://massbike.org/bikelaw/
</a> ), the only three traffic law differences for<br>> > bicyclists are:<br>> ><br>> > 1. Bicyclists are permitted to pass on the right (though it's not very<br>> > safe).<br>> > 2. Bicyclists are NOT permitted to ride next to eachother in the same lane
<br>> > (a stupid law that would be changed with the passage of the Bicyclists<br>> Bill<br>> > of Rights and Responsibilities).<br>> > 3. Bicycles may be ridden on sidewalks outside business districts "when
<br>> > necessary for safety", as long as you yield to pedestrians.<br>> ><br>> > Other than those excecptions, bicyclists are required by state law to<br>> follow<br>> > all traffic laws.<br>
> ><br>> > Obviously, lots of people don't know this, and many others don't give a<br>> > shit. But reality is that you can get cited and prosecuted for violating<br>> > traffic laws on your bike as you would in an automobile.
<br>> ><br>> > Note, we're not talking about equipment laws here, just traffic laws.<br>> > Obviously, different types of vehicles have different equipment laws.<br>> > For example, bikes are required to have a white, front headlight at night,
<br>> > but aren't required to have any rear lights at all (though they are<br>> > definitely an excellent idea).<br>> ><br>> > -Turtle<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Boston Critical Mass <
<a href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org">list@bostoncriticalmass.org</a> > wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Anarchist Judaism wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > > The regulation does specify motor vehicle, though.
<br>> > > ><br>> > ><br>> > > I think it's established elsewhere that bicyclists must follow all<br>> > > motor vehicular traffic laws except where noted.<br>> > > _______________________________________________
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