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Dave-<br>
The police don't really mess with us that much. I suppose the website
implies otherwise. <br>
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Boston Police: They leave us alone, except when the rock-n-roll
trailer is there.<br>
State Police: They hassled us badly during the DNC, but that wasn't a
regular CM, it was on a Thursday morning & it was the DNC after
all. On the Krispy Kreme ride they tried to stop us in Medford, but to
no avail. There was that arrest on Mem Drive a long long time ago.
That arrest I'm sure has a story with it, but I wasn't at that one.<br>
Cambridge Police: They have given up on us. The worst they do is try
to pull us to one lane. (One lane is all we need IMHO.)<br>
<br>
My advice? If you see a cruiser with intentions to disrupt our civil
disobedience, then move out. Just leave. It is hard to get arrested,
just ask the drug dealers on my street. I'm sure others on the list
have an angle on this too, at least the ones that actually ride it.<br>
<br>
Run interference? I don't know what that would mean. If the cop is
after me (us) I am so out of there, to re-group later. If a someone is
taken away from their bike, then I would lock it to a pole with my own
lock then try to find the guy later.<br>
<br>
You may be questioned by the other CM'ers about your rig. Gadgets tend
to fascinate us.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
David Hammond wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I don't own a Harley (alas), just
two bikes that I designed and geniuses built. When I ride them, I
pedal quite a bit, even though I don't need to, because I love to
pedal, and pedaling keeps me warm when the bike is doing 30 mph in a 30
degree F. atmosphere. If I'm welcome at a CM ride, can you folks run
enough interference for me if the fuzz goes after my bike? I know I
can outrun them, but I also know that's a lot to ask - it's likely to
result in mass arrests and maybe even some broken heads.</font></div>
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Re: [*BCM*] Is An E-Bike A Real Bike?</div>
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Well at 5:45 I left Copley for the Squealing Pig, and drank beer.
Sorry this month didn't happen, unless someone showed up after and
created a ride. Dave you would be welcome even if your bike is
basically a quiet Harley. Part of the argument is that we stay fit,
whilst experiencing the city. If those tiny electrons are propelling
you, then what is the point? Well, there isn't a point. Go out there
and take up some of the space that the phat motorist dominates.<br>
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So I wonder if the Massbike people will allow a Harley owner to join
and steer them into motorcycle advocacy.<br>
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Peace<br>
<br>
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<pre wrap="">IMHO:
If either pedals or an electric motor, or both, can propel the thing, then
yes, call it a bike, in the specific meaning of "bicycle".
If it has no pedals, but two wheels, it's still a bike in the colloquial
sense that a Harley is referred to as a bike.
I have two electric-assist bicycles. Both derive their battery charge-ups
from solar power. At this point in time both the federal government and the
state of Massachusetts refuse to call them bicycles (their motor-only top
speeds are too fast), but also refuse to let me register them as mopeds,
something I'm very willing to do, btw. You folks can call my bikes Elmer
and Daffy, for all I care (that would be kinda cool, in a way), but it's the
government's appellation that determines whether the cops can confiscate
them, say during a CM ride. I and my partner put too much B,S&T (not to
mention money) into their creation to risk that. When I ride by myself, out
here in the 'burbs, the local constabulary is oblivious. I just slow down
and pedal. The bikes look too weird for them to even notice the motor and
batteries, anyway. And I carry a Dunkie's six-pack in the panniers just in
case.....
I'd LOVE to join in a CM ride, but the chances that I'd lose the bike make
me chicken out. I'll wait 'til either the state or the feds wises up.
Dave Hammond
Voltaia Design Cooperative
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Should an E-bike be called a bike at all? Discuss.
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