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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't own a Harley (alas), just two bikes that I
designed and geniuses built. When I ride them, I pedal quite a bit, even
though I don't need to, because I love to pedal, and pedaling keeps me warm when
the bike is doing 30 mph in a 30 degree F. atmosphere. If I'm welcome at a
CM ride, can you folks run enough interference for me if the fuzz goes after my
bike? I know I can outrun them, but I also know that's a lot to ask - it's
likely to result in mass arrests and maybe even some broken heads.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lfpeters@gis.net href="mailto:lfpeters@gis.net">Lee Peters</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=list@bostoncriticalmass.org
href="mailto:list@bostoncriticalmass.org">Boston Critical Mass</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 28, 2005 11:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [*BCM*] Is An E-Bike A Real
Bike?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Well at 5:45 I left Copley for the Squealing Pig, and drank
beer. Sorry this month didn't happen, unless someone showed up after and
created a ride. Dave you would be welcome even if your bike is basically
a quiet Harley. Part of the argument is that we stay fit, whilst
experiencing the city. If those tiny electrons are propelling you, then
what is the point? Well, there isn't a point. Go out there and
take up some of the space that the phat motorist dominates.<BR><BR>So I wonder
if the Massbike people will allow a Harley owner to join and steer them into
motorcycle advocacy.<BR><BR>Peace<BR><BR><BR>David Hammond wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid001e01c50586$ff883400$50581f42@ne2.client2.attbi.com
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">IMHO:
If either pedals or an electric motor, or both, can propel the thing, then
yes, call it a bike, in the specific meaning of "bicycle".
If it has no pedals, but two wheels, it's still a bike in the colloquial
sense that a Harley is referred to as a bike.
I have two electric-assist bicycles. Both derive their battery charge-ups
from solar power. At this point in time both the federal government and the
state of Massachusetts refuse to call them bicycles (their motor-only top
speeds are too fast), but also refuse to let me register them as mopeds,
something I'm very willing to do, btw. You folks can call my bikes Elmer
and Daffy, for all I care (that would be kinda cool, in a way), but it's the
government's appellation that determines whether the cops can confiscate
them, say during a CM ride. I and my partner put too much B,S&T (not to
mention money) into their creation to risk that. When I ride by myself, out
here in the 'burbs, the local constabulary is oblivious. I just slow down
and pedal. The bikes look too weird for them to even notice the motor and
batteries, anyway. And I carry a Dunkie's six-pack in the panniers just in
case.....
I'd LOVE to join in a CM ride, but the chances that I'd lose the bike make
me chicken out. I'll wait 'til either the state or the feds wises up.
Dave Hammond
Voltaia Design Cooperative
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:34 PM
Subject: [*BCM*] remember CM?
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Here guys, bicker about this:
Should an E-bike be called a bike at all? Discuss.
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