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motor, or a non-pedal bicycle which has a motor, with a cylinder capacity=
not
exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and which is
capable of a maximum speed of no more than thirty miles per hour.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Motorized scooters are intended to=
be those things kids zip
around on, however the law is extremely vague on defining one. You need a
drivers license or permit, can ride in bike lanes except limited-use
recreational paths, and must pass on the right. 20MPH limit. They can't be
operated during night hours. -- MGL 90: "Motorized scooter'', any 2
wheeled tandem or 3 wheeled device, that has handlebars, designed to be st=
ood
or sat upon by the operator, powered by an electric or gas powered motor=
that
is capable of propelling the device with or without human propulsion. The
definition of "motorized scooter'' shall not include a motorcycle or
motorized bicycle or a 3 wheeled motorized wheelchair. </div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">A "Motorcycle'' is any mo=
tor vehicle having
a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not mo=
re
than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with=
a
motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle desig=
ned
for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industri=
al
three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger rid=
e
within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Regular bicycles are not defined in=
the general laws, but
there are laws about them, including that all bicycles must follow the reg=
ular
rules of the road -- with the exception of passing both left and right.</d=
iv>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">So, this leaves us with a problem wi=
th the electric bicycle
given before. Technically, it could be a motorcycle? But motorized bicycle=
s
must have real engines? So what is it, and what laws are required of it?=
These
classifications, and what it is have a lot to do with where it is allowed=
to be
parked, and what ways it can be on. Technically, if a nice greenery path=
allows
bicycles, it is excluding anything that's not a bicycle -- except bicycle=
isn't
defined.</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Honestly, I think Massachusetts shou=
ld just rewrite all the
classifications to contain more specific information.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Angela Morley</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Founder & CEO, ionFyre Technolog=
ies</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Computer Specialist, Salem Stat=
e University Information
Technology Services</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">General Manager, WMWM Salem</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Tim=
othy Gorin <<a rel=3D"nofollow">tgorin at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">it was just a suggestion, do what yo=
u will. it just
seems counterproductive if people to unsubscribe because they fi=
nd a
somewhat tangential conversation a little annoying.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"> =
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mar=
s <<a rel=3D"nofollow">martian at mit.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Compared to other BCM list threads?<=
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
On 8/10/2010 4:18 PM, Timothy Gorin wrote: </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">seems=
like this convo is
between a small group of individuals...maybe you all could start your own=
email
thread for the purposes of this discussion? </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jym=
Dyer <<a rel=3D"nofollow">jym at econet.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">>=
The bottom line is that
true mopeds (motorized bicycles with<br>
> pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same<br>
> kind of issues as motor scooters.</div>
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is increasingly off-topic<br>
for a Critical Mass list, given that Critical Mass is, at<br>
bare minimum, about bicycles on streets.<br>
<span style=3D"color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"> <_Jym_></spa=
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