[BCM] StreetTalk with Portland's Roger Geller...

Tue Mar 4 09:03:27 EST 2008

Hi Jon,

    I use a pole like you speak of with a flag on the end.   I have a
Carridice saddle bag where I put all my junk.  This bag straps to the
saddle bag loops on the saddle/.  The flag pole just fits between the
saddle loops inside the two saddlebag straps through the loops.  The
neat thing is that if you do it this way, the flag pole can extend out
towards the cars who come too close or if you're on a bike path or
around people it can slide back in out of the way.   I love it and feel
it does keep the cars just a bit more away from me.   You can find the
poles and flags on Buggylights.com.  I'f you don't use a saddlebag,
hopefully your saddle has saddlebag loops so just strap the pole to
those.  The pole is fiberglass so it's a bit flexible so it wont take
you down.  The pole will come too long so just cut it down to where
you're comfortable with it-mine is maybe 3 feet and the carridice bag is
maybe 12 or 15 inches wide-so it's a nice set up.  The pole comes with a
rubber protector on end just past the flag so that if you get too close
to a car and forget to slide the flag back out of the way you wont
scratch some guy's dear and precious Lexus.  Hope that helps

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From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
Jon Ramos
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Boston Critical Mass
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] StreetTalk with Portland's Roger Geller...

How about a sign that says "Only pass me if it is SAFE"  I have thought
about writing that in large letters on my bike bag, but by the time the
driver is close enough to read it, they are already too close for
comfort.

I have also thought about some kind of a pole that extends perpendicular
off of my bike the left about two feet.  This would prevent a driver
from passing too close...  It would have to be reflective so that it can
be easily seen, and also snap away easily in case it does get hit (so
that it won't take you down with it)  maybe the pole could have a sign
on it... hmmm

- Jon

----- Original Message ----
From: Erik Wile <esw at alum.mit.edu>
To: Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 10:06:21 PM
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] StreetTalk with Portland's Roger Geller...

Wow!

That was a really exciting presentation!  Too much to summarize for
those who missed it.  But I will say it did give me a little hope.

One of the most exciting things was hearing that business owners in
Portland have actually asked the city to replace some on-street car
parking with on-street bike parking in front of their cafes!!!
Whenever one of my snooty neighbors complains about bikes parked on
the sidewalk I always enthusiastically agree and say that they should
carve out a few on street parking spaces for a bike corral.  That
shut's 'em up.  But they're actually going for it in Portland!

One thing that surprised me: Roger talked about various bike lanes and
even a left-turn bike lane that were all working well for Portland.  I
asked when they got police "buy in" to the bike revolution... assuming
that the only way that the bike lanes could work is if the police were
actively enforcing the no parking/travelling in bike lanes rule.

It turns out that they still don't really have the police on their
side.  That even recently Police have been ticketing bikes for failing
to stop at stop signs.  Just to flex their muscles.

But somehow, despite the lack of help from the authorities, it is
working there.  It just seems to be about getting a critical mass
[ahem] of influential people to actually believe that bikes are
traffic too.  All their traffic engineers, for example.

He had an interesting point about bike safety.  He said that a key
next step is getting bike behaviors that are safe [eg taking the lane]
to also be comfortable.  [getting cars to chill out if it's not safe
to pass.]  I must say that BCM helps us be more comfortable in the
streets, and safe during the ride, but then again when the ride is
over, the drivers rage remains.  How do we get cars to chill?

For solo riding I was thinking maybe an electric message board sign on
my rack for extra-narrow roads saying "toot if you really need to
pass."  Maybe that would defuse things.  Maybe a couple people will
honk and maybe I'll get to the side when I can, but eventually the car
directly behind will realize they don't _need_ to pass and act as a
moving blocker.

Hmmm, naah, everyone's late for work, or overeager to get home;
generally unhappy about where they are when they're driving in
Boston.  I'd be deafend, and I don't really want honked at all the
time.  I dunno.  Ideas?

Just tryin' to be positive,
-erik
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