[*BCM*] Re: Paul Revere says "Impeachment is Coming" (Jym Dyer)

[Aaron Dulles-Coelho]

Well, I suppose I should weigh in on this. My primary intention, of
course, is to promote an event that promotes my politics. Although I
ride regularly, I have never participated in CM, and so did not have a
good understanding of how CM works.

As near I can tell, it operates as a hive event, without any purpose
other than to make itself seen and, by dint of that, to make drivers
more aware of cyclists on the road. So imho, if our slogans detract
from that, then don't join. If you disagree, then don't join. But if
you agree with our political purpose and don't think it harms the
visibility of the hive, then nobody has the authority to stop you.

Does that seem to be a good way to think about things?

Aaron

On 4/2/07, Lee Peters <leepeters at gis.net> wrote:
> If CM was about getting people to ride, it would be different.  It is about
> whatever the organizer wants it to be, but alas, there is no organizer.  Get
> it?
>
> What if an organizer who is deeply frustrated by the lousy T service wanted
> to form a protest on a single train of the B line.  Well, they could.
> Everyone else who happened to be riding that particular train at that time
> would sort of be involved.  Maybe if the organizer was good, then everyone
> would be involved.  The result may or may not be more ridership, but I am
> guessing no result.
>
> In the case of the T, it is the state reps who screwed the riders, so unless
> the state reps are on that particular train they won't really experience the
> protest.  Again, frustration.
>
> Ian, you may feel that it is inappropriate to politicize CM.  That is fine
> to feel that way, but you can't 'undo' potential organizing on this list and
> expect a result.  I guess you could show up and try to convince people to
> not protest and work like a political de-organizer.  I think it would be
> easier to just sit back and watch it not happen.
>
> The choice to ride for some is a political one.  Many other reasons are out
> there however.  The choice to NOT ride isn't apolitical either and many
> choose to stay home because they don't feel militant or antagonistic.
>
> CM is a time and place, if there is a message to be shared, then share it !
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ian schwartz" <hankpiece at gmail.com>
> To: <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 1:00 PM
> Subject: [*BCM*] Re: Paul Revere says "Impeachment is Coming" (Jym Dyer)
>
>
> >I really disagree with this idea. I'm not a republican and I don't
> > have republican affiliations, but Mass isn't a partisan political
> > movement. There's no reason why somebody who was a Republican couldn't
> > partake, unless of course the ride involved people with signs
> > denouncing them. It's about getting people to ride and Republicans own
> > bikes too.
> >
> > Now if somebody wants to organize a ride that DOES have partisan
> > political affliations, and invite me along, I would be all for it.
> >
> > On 4/2/07, bostoncriticalmass-request at bostoncriticalmass.org
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:56:50 -0700
> >> From: Jym Dyer <jym at econet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Paul Revere says "Impeachment is Coming"
> >> To: Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org>
> >> Message-ID: <Jym.01Apr2007.460fe433 at econet.org>
> >>
> >> =v= In New York City, this group got very into the whole
> >> Paul Revere thing:
> >>
> >> http://www.greenedragon.org/
> >>
> >> They met up with us bike activists, we got some puppeteers
> >> into the act, but some horse-heads on our bikes, and warned
> >> everyone, "The Republicans are coming!"
> >>     <_Jym_>
> >>
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