[*BCM*] Re: Bostoncriticalmass Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2
John Hays
jjhays2 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 13:48:15 EDT 2007
Um, I agree that Critical Mass is "about riding a bike through city
streets" (although skateboarders and rollerbladers are welcome - and
we've occasionally had both). Well, obviously. You'd have to be pretty
dense to think that acknowledging the minimum requirement of riding a
bike through a streets in any way impacts my substantive argument -
which is that people are free to add or subtract any additional
political, social, or environmental 'messages' as they see fit. Lots of
people see Critical Mass as a protest against car culture - some people
don't. C'est la vie. My only point is that people are free to create
those additional associations for themselves, and to encourage other
people to voluntarily adopt them as their own during the ride.
You claim such an effort will be largely unsuccessful - and the
previous poster feared it would be TOO successful. I don't really care
either way, and have no position on which is likely to be the outcome.
My only position is that all participants in Critical Mass are free to
make the ride "about" whatever they want - provided they meet the
minimal requirement of "riding a bike through city streets" (of course!).
Rob Arnold wrote:
> How convenient. Now I don't even need a bike to ride in Critical Mass.
>
> Fact is, at some minimal level, Critical Mass *is* about riding a bike
> through city streets. Anarcho-babble aside, exterior wannabe-unifying
> political messages like the one suggested don't generally have much
> effect in a CM ride precisely because they don't address the simple
> fact that it's kinda just a group bike ride. And if a political tag is
> added, it's generally bike-centric. Hence, the only chant I ever hear
> having much group sway is the popular "Whose streets? Our streets!" If
> you want to claim that there's no unifying principle to the rides, I
> suggest you walk the next one.
>
> On 4/2/07, *John Hays* <jjhays2 at gmail.com <mailto:jjhays2 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Er, Critical Mass isn't "really" about anything. Critical Mass is
> completely structureless and leaderless. YOU may have some concept in
> your head about what Critical Mass "really" is - and that's entirely
> fine. The point is, every Critical Mass participant is equally capable
> of divining for himself or herself what Critical mass is "really"
> about.
> And if onlookers don't understand the 'nature' of Critical Mass, and
> attribute views held by a participating minority to the whole -
> well so
> what? Are we obligated to change the nature of Critical Mass so as to
> enforce conformity and group "approved" messages merely because
> onlookers don't understand that such an organizational structure is
> PRECISELY the opposite of what Critical Mass actually I think not.
>
> - John Hays
>
>
> Terra Curtis wrote:
> > seems simple enough, but it's not that simple. even if only 10
> or 20%
> > of the riders adopt this chant, on-lookers who are unaware of what
> > critical mass is *really* about will assume it's something that
> it is
> > not.
> >
> > the whole reason we take to the streets in such numbers is to make
> > those people who are unaware more aware of bicyclists. i don't
> think
> > we want our one unifying purpose to be overshadowed.
> >
> > i agree with ian: "if somebody wants to organize a ride that
> DOES have
> > partisan
> > political affliations, and invite me along, I would be all for it."
> >
> > we should keep the two agendas separate.
> >
> > On 4/2/07, John Hays < jjhays2 at gmail.com
> <mailto:jjhays2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Critical Mass has always been "political" in the broad
> sense, and
> >> has certainly been political in the narrow sense of favoring or
> opposing
> >> particular political figures or parties. The unusually massive NYC
> >> Critical Mass on the eve of the Republican National Convention -
> >> expressly attended by many of the extra thousands who were in
> NYC at the
> >> time as an anti-RNC protest - is a prime example.
> >>
> >> I would encourage anyone that supports the Paul
> Revere/impeachment
> >> idea to voluntarily choose to participate w/ it during the next
> ride by
> >> getting in costume, wearing a sign, or shouting the name of the
> website.
> >> Anybody who prefers NOT to do it can just not do those things.
> Seems
> >> simple enough.
> >>
> >> - John Hays
> >>
> >>
> >> ian schwartz wrote:
> >> > Since when does Critical Mass have political leanings?
> >> >
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> >> >> 1. Re: Paul Revere says "Impeachment is Coming" (Jym Dyer)
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> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:56:50 -0700
> >> >> From: Jym Dyer <jym at econet.org <mailto:jym at econet.org>>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Paul Revere says "Impeachment is Coming"
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> >> >> Message-ID: <Jym.01Apr2007.460fe433 at econet.org
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> >> >>
> >> >> =v= In New York City, this group got very into the whole
> >> >> Paul Revere thing:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.greenedragon.org/ <http://www.greenedragon.org/>
> >> >>
> >> >> They met up with us bike activists, we got some puppeteers
> >> >> into the act, but some horse-heads on our bikes, and warned
> >> >> everyone, "The Republicans are coming!"
> >> >> <_Jym_>
> >> >>
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